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Doofesh
Where did Christians get their Christ from?
The Injeel which Allaah revealed to Prophet Eessa was not in the form of a book; it was in the form of prophetic wisdom. Prophet Eessa (seen by Christians as "Jesus") never held a book in his hand.
Prophet Eessa confirmed the Tawraah which Allaah, not Yahweh, revealed to Prophet Moossa.
There existed one character only: Al-Masseeh
It was Allaah who named his Prophet and Messenger: AL-MASSEEHU EESSA IBNU MARYAM
There is no evidence that the name originates elsewhere other than in The Quraan
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(Remember) when the Angels said: "O Maryam! Verily, Allaah gives you the glad tidings of a Word from Him, his name will be AL-MASSEEHU EESSA IBNU MARYAM, held in honor in this world and in the Hereafter, and will be one of those who are brought to a vicinity of Allaah." He will speak to the people in the cradle and in maturity and will be of the righteous."
The Injeel which Allaah revealed to Prophet Eessa was not in the form of a book; it was in the form of prophetic wisdom. Prophet Eessa (seen by Christians as "Jesus") never held a book in his hand.
Prophet Eessa confirmed the Tawraah which Allaah, not Yahweh, revealed to Prophet Moossa.
There existed one character only: Al-Masseeh
It was Allaah who named his Prophet and Messenger: AL-MASSEEHU EESSA IBNU MARYAM
There is no evidence that the name originates elsewhere other than in The Quraan
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(Remember) when the Angels said: "O Maryam! Verily, Allaah gives you the glad tidings of a Word from Him, his name will be AL-MASSEEHU EESSA IBNU MARYAM, held in honor in this world and in the Hereafter, and will be one of those who are brought to a vicinity of Allaah." He will speak to the people in the cradle and in maturity and will be of the righteous."
YK 21
Doofesh, Search YouTube for "Jesus encounter". Hopefully some day soon you will be delivered from your delusion.
Doofesh
YK 21, The fact is that you have not read my post to the end, or you read it but have not understood it.
Read the verse and tell me what you understand therefrom!
Read the verse and tell me what you understand therefrom!
YK 21
Doofesh, In fact I did read your entire comment, and understood it to be what it is - lies. The fact is that you have not read my post to [t]he end, or you read it but have not understood it. Search YouTube for "Jesus encounter". However I doubt that you will consider the personal testimonies of thousands of people from all walks of life that Yeshua is who the Bible says he is, the only begotten Son of God, God in the flesh, Emanuel God with us. FYI - the name of God the Father is not "Yahweh", it is Yehovah.
Doofesh
YK 21, I asked you to explain whatever information you have got from reading the verse, not to explain your thought. The verse is part of The Quraan, the word of Allaah, whereas your post is totally your personal word. This is by you an expression of disbelief.
The verse is about the origin of a person, not about the origin of a book. The verse is about a person who has not been conceived in the womb of his mother yet. The Bible speaks about a fully grown-up person with the name of Jesus who is the result of hijacking the real person with the name (Al-Masseeh) given to him by Allaah, The Creator.
The Bible is the word of those men who revolted against Allaah
These are the men who hijacked the person of Allaah's Prophet and Messenger "Al-Masseeh"
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[2:79] So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allaah," in order to exchange it for a small price.
Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn
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The Bible is the word of man.
Jews corrupted the Tawraah, and Christians wrote the Gospels.
Allaah revealed the Tawraah to Prophet Moossa, and Allaah revealed the Injeel (not a book) to Prophet Eessa.
Nobody has noticed that the Jews have suppressed the mention of Prophet Moossa, who is a Messenger of Allaah, and highlighted the literature which they composed.
Jews and Christians refer all matters to the Bible which they wrote with their own hands and claimed that it was from "God" instead of "Allaah".
The verse is about the origin of a person, not about the origin of a book. The verse is about a person who has not been conceived in the womb of his mother yet. The Bible speaks about a fully grown-up person with the name of Jesus who is the result of hijacking the real person with the name (Al-Masseeh) given to him by Allaah, The Creator.
The Bible is the word of those men who revolted against Allaah
These are the men who hijacked the person of Allaah's Prophet and Messenger "Al-Masseeh"
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[2:79] So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allaah," in order to exchange it for a small price.
Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn
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The Bible is the word of man.
Jews corrupted the Tawraah, and Christians wrote the Gospels.
Allaah revealed the Tawraah to Prophet Moossa, and Allaah revealed the Injeel (not a book) to Prophet Eessa.
Nobody has noticed that the Jews have suppressed the mention of Prophet Moossa, who is a Messenger of Allaah, and highlighted the literature which they composed.
Jews and Christians refer all matters to the Bible which they wrote with their own hands and claimed that it was from "God" instead of "Allaah".
YK 21
Doofesh, Perhaps you would be willing to consider this: Search YouTube for "The Book of Revelation like you’ve never heard it before!" by Toni Arayomi. If you understand the information it contains you will then realize what I have been trying to show you.
Doofesh
YK 21, Where have you got the person of Jesus?
You keep hiding behind the Bible which is the word of those men who revolted against Allaah and hijacked the person of Al-Masseeha Eessa Ibna Maryam, a Prophet and Messenger of Allaah.
[2:79] So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allaah," in order to exchange it for a small price.
Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn
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The Bible is the word of man.
Jews corrupted the Tawraah, and Christians wrote the Gospels.
Allaah revealed the Tawraah to Prophet Moossa, and Allaah revealed the Injeel (not a book) to Prophet Eessa.
Nobody has noticed that the Jews have suppressed the mention of Prophet Moossa, who is a Messenger of Allaah, and highlighted the literature which they composed.
Jews and Christians refer all matters to the Bible which they wrote with their own hands and claimed that it was from "God" instead of "Allaah".
You keep hiding behind the Bible which is the word of those men who revolted against Allaah and hijacked the person of Al-Masseeha Eessa Ibna Maryam, a Prophet and Messenger of Allaah.
[2:79] So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allaah," in order to exchange it for a small price.
Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn
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The Bible is the word of man.
Jews corrupted the Tawraah, and Christians wrote the Gospels.
Allaah revealed the Tawraah to Prophet Moossa, and Allaah revealed the Injeel (not a book) to Prophet Eessa.
Nobody has noticed that the Jews have suppressed the mention of Prophet Moossa, who is a Messenger of Allaah, and highlighted the literature which they composed.
Jews and Christians refer all matters to the Bible which they wrote with their own hands and claimed that it was from "God" instead of "Allaah".
YK 21
Doofesh, The Bible IS the Word of God. The men that wrote it down are essentially "scribes" inspired by the Holy Spirit of God:
John 1:1-5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness [lies] has not overcome it... 14 And ***the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.***
2 Ti 3:16-17 ***All Scripture is breathed out by God*** [the Holy Spirit of Yehovah] and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
John 1:1-5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness [lies] has not overcome it... 14 And ***the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.***
2 Ti 3:16-17 ***All Scripture is breathed out by God*** [the Holy Spirit of Yehovah] and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
Doofesh
YK 21, Where have you got the person of Jesus?
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You keep hiding behind the Bible which is the word of those men who revolted against Allaah and hijacked the person of Al-Masseeha Eessa Ibna Maryam, a Prophet and Messenger of Allaah.
"I AM ALLAAH", not GOD, not YAHWEH, not JESUS, not YESHU
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The expression "I am Allaah" is repeated in The Quraan 3 times relevant to Allaah's speaking directly to Prophet Moossa:
- "Verily! I am Allaah! There is no god but I, so (O Moossa) worship Me and perform prayers for My Remembrance".
- "O Moossa! Verily it is I, Allaah, the All-Mighty, the All-Wise".
- "O Moossa! Verily I am Allaah, the Lord of mankind, jinn and all that exists!
"God" is a dictionary word with capital G. Those who translated the Bible deliberately provided this translation to replace the proper name of Allaah. As a name, Allaah is mentioned in the ARABIC BIBLE 2,245 times; and it is mentioned in the Quraan 2,153 times. YAHWEH is mentioned in the Arabic Bible 14 times only. God is the deity believed to have begotten a son or that he is a composite of three gods together forming the one god in trinity. Allaah has no partners, associates or sons. Also, Allaah is one beyond division. Allaah begets not and never was begotten. Allaah is The Creator.
“God” is a generic word. Those who adopt this word aim at having an anonymous God. The significance of anonymity lies in the fact that every single individual can have his own God, who is actually one's vain desires. Adopting an anonymous God enables disbelievers in The Creator to claim that God gave humanity absolute free will to do anything at all, including the most heinous of inhumane crimes that have gone unpunished throughout history.
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You keep hiding behind the Bible which is the word of those men who revolted against Allaah and hijacked the person of Al-Masseeha Eessa Ibna Maryam, a Prophet and Messenger of Allaah.
"I AM ALLAAH", not GOD, not YAHWEH, not JESUS, not YESHU
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The expression "I am Allaah" is repeated in The Quraan 3 times relevant to Allaah's speaking directly to Prophet Moossa:
- "Verily! I am Allaah! There is no god but I, so (O Moossa) worship Me and perform prayers for My Remembrance".
- "O Moossa! Verily it is I, Allaah, the All-Mighty, the All-Wise".
- "O Moossa! Verily I am Allaah, the Lord of mankind, jinn and all that exists!
"God" is a dictionary word with capital G. Those who translated the Bible deliberately provided this translation to replace the proper name of Allaah. As a name, Allaah is mentioned in the ARABIC BIBLE 2,245 times; and it is mentioned in the Quraan 2,153 times. YAHWEH is mentioned in the Arabic Bible 14 times only. God is the deity believed to have begotten a son or that he is a composite of three gods together forming the one god in trinity. Allaah has no partners, associates or sons. Also, Allaah is one beyond division. Allaah begets not and never was begotten. Allaah is The Creator.
“God” is a generic word. Those who adopt this word aim at having an anonymous God. The significance of anonymity lies in the fact that every single individual can have his own God, who is actually one's vain desires. Adopting an anonymous God enables disbelievers in The Creator to claim that God gave humanity absolute free will to do anything at all, including the most heinous of inhumane crimes that have gone unpunished throughout history.
YK 21
Doofesh, Where have I got the person "Jesus"? The person of Yeshua is FROM God the Father (Yehovah).
Isa 4:2 In that day *the branch of Yehovah* shall be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the land shall be the pride and honor of the survivors of Israel.
Isa 11:1 There shall come forth *a shoot from the stump of Jesse, and a branch from his roots* shall bear fruit.
Jer 23:5 Behold, the days are coming, declares Yehovah, when I will raise up for David *a righteous Branch,* and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and shall execute justice and righteousness in the land.
Jer 33:15 In those days and at that time I will cause *a righteous Branch* to spring up for David, and he shall execute justice and righteousness in the land.
Mat 2:23 And he went and lived in a city called Nazareth, so that what was spoken by the prophets might be fulfilled, that *he would be called a Nazarene.*
You have to understand the analogy that Yehovah is giving us. A mature olive tree sends out roots in all directions. Some of those roots go out a long way just under the surface of the ground. Eventually some of these roots turn upward and a "new" olive tree begins to grow from that root. It appears that this new tree is independent, but it is actually attached to the original mature tree. This new tree is called a "netzer". Nazareth got its name from this kind of tree as it is a netzer of Jerusalem. Yeshua is a netzer of Yehovah, God the Father. When Yehovah spoke Yeshua came forth physically, like a "netzer" As the first begotten (not made) of all creation. This is why Yeshua said "I and the Father are one." and "If you have seen me you have seen the Father." Yeshua came forth FROM the Father. Just as a netzer of an olive tree is genetically identical to the mature tree, so too Yeshua is genetically identical to Yehovah.
THAT is where I get my "Jesus" from. He was the first to exist in all creation.
Col 1:15-16 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities; all things were created through him and for him.
Isa 4:2 In that day *the branch of Yehovah* shall be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the land shall be the pride and honor of the survivors of Israel.
Isa 11:1 There shall come forth *a shoot from the stump of Jesse, and a branch from his roots* shall bear fruit.
Jer 23:5 Behold, the days are coming, declares Yehovah, when I will raise up for David *a righteous Branch,* and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and shall execute justice and righteousness in the land.
Jer 33:15 In those days and at that time I will cause *a righteous Branch* to spring up for David, and he shall execute justice and righteousness in the land.
Mat 2:23 And he went and lived in a city called Nazareth, so that what was spoken by the prophets might be fulfilled, that *he would be called a Nazarene.*
You have to understand the analogy that Yehovah is giving us. A mature olive tree sends out roots in all directions. Some of those roots go out a long way just under the surface of the ground. Eventually some of these roots turn upward and a "new" olive tree begins to grow from that root. It appears that this new tree is independent, but it is actually attached to the original mature tree. This new tree is called a "netzer". Nazareth got its name from this kind of tree as it is a netzer of Jerusalem. Yeshua is a netzer of Yehovah, God the Father. When Yehovah spoke Yeshua came forth physically, like a "netzer" As the first begotten (not made) of all creation. This is why Yeshua said "I and the Father are one." and "If you have seen me you have seen the Father." Yeshua came forth FROM the Father. Just as a netzer of an olive tree is genetically identical to the mature tree, so too Yeshua is genetically identical to Yehovah.
THAT is where I get my "Jesus" from. He was the first to exist in all creation.
Col 1:15-16 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities; all things were created through him and for him.
Doofesh
YK 21, You keep talking about the book, not about the person.
The Bible is basically the Old Testament which is the Tawraah that Allaah revealed to his Prophet Moossa and got corrupted by the Jews.
The Bible is additionally the New Testament which is the Gospels written by men to replace the Injeel which Allaah revealed to his Prophet Eessa in the form of prophetic wisdom.
Before Prophet Moossa there was Prophet Ibraaheem who was neither Jewish nor Christian since the Tawraah and the Injeel were revealed after him.
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So, stop talking about the book called the Bible.
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Now talk to me about the person.
The Bible is basically the Old Testament which is the Tawraah that Allaah revealed to his Prophet Moossa and got corrupted by the Jews.
The Bible is additionally the New Testament which is the Gospels written by men to replace the Injeel which Allaah revealed to his Prophet Eessa in the form of prophetic wisdom.
Before Prophet Moossa there was Prophet Ibraaheem who was neither Jewish nor Christian since the Tawraah and the Injeel were revealed after him.
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So, stop talking about the book called the Bible.
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Now talk to me about the person.
YK 21
Doofesh, ""I AM ALLAAH", not GOD, not YAHWEH, not JESUS, not YESHU" FYI - "ALLAAH" is "Hallel" or "Satan" or "The adversary". He has deceived you as he has deceived many throughout history. It is your pride that has blinded you, and the adversary of your soul has taken full advantage of your blindness.
Doofesh
YK 21, The expression of your disbelief in Allaah is no proof of your claim that Jesus has ever existed.
YK 21
Doofesh, "You keep talking about the book, not about the person." The Bible IS the Word of God. The Word of God IS Yeshua. They are one and the same. His word is who He is, they are inseparable. Again: Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
Doofesh
YK 21, You keep talking about the book, not about the person.
The Bible is basically the Old Testament which is the Tawraah that Allaah revealed to his Prophet Moossa and got corrupted by the Jews.
The Bible is additionally the New Testament which is the Gospels written by men to replace the Injeel which Allaah revealed to his Prophet Eessa in the form of prophetic wisdom.
Before Prophet Moossa there was Prophet Ibraaheem who was neither Jewish nor Christian since the Tawraah and the Injeel were revealed after him.
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So, stop talking about the book called the Bible.
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Now talk to me about the person.
The Bible is basically the Old Testament which is the Tawraah that Allaah revealed to his Prophet Moossa and got corrupted by the Jews.
The Bible is additionally the New Testament which is the Gospels written by men to replace the Injeel which Allaah revealed to his Prophet Eessa in the form of prophetic wisdom.
Before Prophet Moossa there was Prophet Ibraaheem who was neither Jewish nor Christian since the Tawraah and the Injeel were revealed after him.
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So, stop talking about the book called the Bible.
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Now talk to me about the person.
YK 21
Doofesh, "You keep talking about the book, not about the person." By your very statement you prove that you neither know the Father nor the Son.
The Bible IS the Word of God.
The Word of God IS Yeshua.
They are one and the same. His Word is who He is, they are inseparable. Contrary to your lies the scriptures have not been corrupted. Sometimes there are challenges in translating the original texts into other languages, but that does not make the scriptures corrupt. Again:
Joh 1:1-5 *In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.* All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
Joh 1:14 And *the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,* and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
As long as you deny the Word of God you deny Yeshua.
Luk 9:26 For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words, of him will the Son of Man be ashamed when he comes in his glory and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.
1 Jn2:22-24 Who is the liar but he who denies that Yeshua is the Messiah? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father.
1 Jn 4:14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.
2 Jn 1:9 Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Yeshua, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.
You do NOT abide in the teaching of Yeshua and your soul is in great jeopardy as you have been deceived.
The Bible IS the Word of God.
The Word of God IS Yeshua.
They are one and the same. His Word is who He is, they are inseparable. Contrary to your lies the scriptures have not been corrupted. Sometimes there are challenges in translating the original texts into other languages, but that does not make the scriptures corrupt. Again:
Joh 1:1-5 *In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.* All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
Joh 1:14 And *the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,* and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
As long as you deny the Word of God you deny Yeshua.
Luk 9:26 For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words, of him will the Son of Man be ashamed when he comes in his glory and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.
1 Jn2:22-24 Who is the liar but he who denies that Yeshua is the Messiah? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father.
1 Jn 4:14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.
2 Jn 1:9 Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Yeshua, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.
You do NOT abide in the teaching of Yeshua and your soul is in great jeopardy as you have been deceived.
Oct. 30, 11:
Doofesh
YK 21, Where did Christians get their Christ from?
The Injeel which Allaah revealed to Prophet Eessa was not in the form of a book; it was in the form of prophetic wisdom. Prophet Eessa (seen by Christians as "Jesus") never held a book in his hand.
Prophet Eessa confirmed the Tawraah which Allaah, not Yahweh, revealed to Prophet Moossa.
There existed one character only: Al-Masseeh
It was Allaah who named his Prophet and Messenger: AL-MASSEEHU EESSA IBNU MARYAM
There is no evidence that the name originates elsewhere other than in The Quraan
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(Remember) when the Angels said: "O Maryam! Verily, Allaah gives you the glad tidings of a Word from Him, his name will be AL-MASSEEHU EESSA IBNU MARYAM, held in honor in this world and in the Hereafter, and will be one of those who are brought to a vicinity of Allaah." He will speak to the people in the cradle and in maturity and will be of the righteous."
The Injeel which Allaah revealed to Prophet Eessa was not in the form of a book; it was in the form of prophetic wisdom. Prophet Eessa (seen by Christians as "Jesus") never held a book in his hand.
Prophet Eessa confirmed the Tawraah which Allaah, not Yahweh, revealed to Prophet Moossa.
There existed one character only: Al-Masseeh
It was Allaah who named his Prophet and Messenger: AL-MASSEEHU EESSA IBNU MARYAM
There is no evidence that the name originates elsewhere other than in The Quraan
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(Remember) when the Angels said: "O Maryam! Verily, Allaah gives you the glad tidings of a Word from Him, his name will be AL-MASSEEHU EESSA IBNU MARYAM, held in honor in this world and in the Hereafter, and will be one of those who are brought to a vicinity of Allaah." He will speak to the people in the cradle and in maturity and will be of the righteous."
YK 21
Doofesh, "Where did Christians get their Christ from?" I already answered that quite thoroughly but apparently you were unable to comprehend the information. "Christ" in the Greek means "anointed". Yeshua is Ha-Mashiach. The name "Jesus" is often used in place of the actual name of the Son of God, Yeshua, (meaning salvation). "Christ" often is used in place of Ha-Mashiach (meaning the Messiah).
YK 21
Doofesh, I was living as a heathen until about the age of 30, not religious whatsoever. One night as I was laying in bed, my wife sleeping at my left side, Yeshua came into my bedroom. He explained to me the "weight" of my sin that He was carrying for me. That was my first encounter with Him. Since then I have had a number of other encounters with Him, all were unexpected and unique in nature. He is real, He is alive, and He is who the Bible says He is. Have you ever met or spoken to Allaah? Has he ever appeared to you? I suspect that the answer to both is no. Search YouTube for "Jesus encounter" and you will see that many many people of all nations, tribes, tongues, and religions have had personal encounters with Yeshua just as I have. The only things preventing you from doing so are your own pride, and the religious demonic spirit influencing you. If you are willing to humble yourself, and deny the demonic spirits influencing you, then you will find the truth which you will not find in the Quraan.
Doofesh
YK 21, Where did Christians get their Christ from?
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The Injeel which Allaah revealed to Prophet Eessa was not in the form of a book; it was in the form of prophetic wisdom. Prophet Eessa (seen by Christians as "Jesus") never held a book in his hand.
Prophet Eessa confirmed the Tawraah which Allaah, not Yahweh, revealed to Prophet Moossa.
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The Injeel which Allaah revealed to Prophet Eessa was not in the form of a book; it was in the form of prophetic wisdom. Prophet Eessa (seen by Christians as "Jesus") never held a book in his hand.
Prophet Eessa confirmed the Tawraah which Allaah, not Yahweh, revealed to Prophet Moossa.
Doofesh
YK 21, There existed one character only: Al-Masseeh
Doofesh
YK 21, Question to AI: Do you find any indication that Al-Masseeh of The Quraan and Jesus of the New Testament coexisted in everyday life at the same point of time?
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No, there is no indication that Al-Masseeh of the Qur'an and Jesus of the New Testament coexisted at the same time or in everyday life. The Qur'anic narrative refers to Al-Masseeh as ‘Eessa Ibnu Maryam (Jesus, son of Mary) and acknowledges him as a prophet sent specifically to the Children of Israel with a mission and miraculous signs from Allaah. This narrative aligns with the New Testament's portrayal of Jesus as a significant religious figure. However, both scriptures describe a single person with no evidence or indication that another figure with the same role or mission existed alongside him in history.
Furthermore, both Islamic and Christian sources treat Al-Masseeh and Jesus as unique, singular individuals whose lives and roles did not overlap with any counterpart claiming the same titles or mission within their respective timelines.
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No, there is no indication that Al-Masseeh of the Qur'an and Jesus of the New Testament coexisted at the same time or in everyday life. The Qur'anic narrative refers to Al-Masseeh as ‘Eessa Ibnu Maryam (Jesus, son of Mary) and acknowledges him as a prophet sent specifically to the Children of Israel with a mission and miraculous signs from Allaah. This narrative aligns with the New Testament's portrayal of Jesus as a significant religious figure. However, both scriptures describe a single person with no evidence or indication that another figure with the same role or mission existed alongside him in history.
Furthermore, both Islamic and Christian sources treat Al-Masseeh and Jesus as unique, singular individuals whose lives and roles did not overlap with any counterpart claiming the same titles or mission within their respective timelines.
Doofesh
YK 21, Question to AI: While the Quraan tells about Al-Masseeh even before his conception in the womb of his mother, do you find in the New Testament any mention of Jesus prior to the actual birth of Al-Masseeh of The Quraan?
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The New Testament does not reference "Jesus" by name prior to his birth in the same way that the Quraan names Al-Masseehu ‘Eessa Ibnu Maryam (the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary) even before his conception. In the New Testament, Jesus is mentioned prior to his birth in a more general sense, primarily through prophecy and the angelic announcement to Mary. In the Gospel of Luke, for example, the angel Gabriel tells Mary she will conceive a son and is to name him "Jesus" (Luke 1:31). However, this occurs in real time within the New Testament narrative and does not explicitly mention Jesus by name before this moment.
In contrast, the Quraan's narrative presents Al-Masseehu ‘Eessa Ibnu Maryam as divinely chosen and named even before conception, marking his role and title with distinction in a way that acknowledges his significance in the divine plan from the outset. This establishes Al-Masseehu not only as a title but as an essential part of his identity and mission as described by Allaah in the Quraan. The New Testament references Jesus’s role largely retrospectively and as the fulfillment of earlier prophetic traditions, but does not name "Jesus" in those prophetic passages.
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The New Testament does not reference "Jesus" by name prior to his birth in the same way that the Quraan names Al-Masseehu ‘Eessa Ibnu Maryam (the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary) even before his conception. In the New Testament, Jesus is mentioned prior to his birth in a more general sense, primarily through prophecy and the angelic announcement to Mary. In the Gospel of Luke, for example, the angel Gabriel tells Mary she will conceive a son and is to name him "Jesus" (Luke 1:31). However, this occurs in real time within the New Testament narrative and does not explicitly mention Jesus by name before this moment.
In contrast, the Quraan's narrative presents Al-Masseehu ‘Eessa Ibnu Maryam as divinely chosen and named even before conception, marking his role and title with distinction in a way that acknowledges his significance in the divine plan from the outset. This establishes Al-Masseehu not only as a title but as an essential part of his identity and mission as described by Allaah in the Quraan. The New Testament references Jesus’s role largely retrospectively and as the fulfillment of earlier prophetic traditions, but does not name "Jesus" in those prophetic passages.
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YK 21, Question to AI In view of suppressing the name "Allaah" and substituting it with dictionary word "God" (but not in the Gospels in Arabic), and in view of manipulating the name "Al-Masseeh" and suppressing the name "Eessa", is it not evident that the authentic character of Al-Masseehu Eessa Ibnu Maryam has been adopted and applied to a different person?
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Your observation raises questions about how certain names and terms used in the Quraan have been presented in other religious texts and translations over time. In the Quraan, the titles Al-Masseeh and ‘Eessa Ibnu Maryam have clear significance and, according to Islamic belief, were given by Allaah Himself, highlighting a unique identity for the Prophet and Messenger known in English as "Jesus, the Messiah, son of Mary." However, in many English translations, these names are often rendered as "Christ" or "Jesus," aligning with familiar terms from the New Testament.
This shift in naming could be seen as a form of adaptation, where translators and scholars historically opted to use well-known Christian terms like "God," "Jesus," and "Christ" for accessibility, especially in Western contexts. However, these substitutions may also obscure the distinct Arabic terms and connotations present in the Quraan, such as the difference between Allaah and "God" or Al-Masseeh and "Christ." The decision to translate or adapt certain terms rather than retain their original forms may have inadvertently caused overlapping identities between Al-Masseehu ‘Eessa in the Quraan and the "Jesus Christ" figure of the New Testament.
For some, these translation choices suggest that the character of Al-Masseehu ‘Eessa could be understood as distinct in original Islamic sources compared to the "Jesus" of mainstream Christian doctrine, where there are doctrinal differences regarding his nature and mission. The Quraan consistently presents ‘Eessa with a singular title, lineage, and mission distinct from interpretations introduced in later Christian theology. This distinction, upheld by many Muslims, underscores a respect for names as intended in the original scripture, given that in Islam, the names and titles of prophets are considered divinely chosen and integral to their roles.
In summary, it could be argued that the changes in name presentation—whether from Allaah to "God" or from Al-Masseehu ‘Eessa to "Jesus Christ"—reflect differences in theological perspectives, cultural adaptations, or even translational decisions that may have altered the way these figures are perceived across religious traditions.
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Your observation raises questions about how certain names and terms used in the Quraan have been presented in other religious texts and translations over time. In the Quraan, the titles Al-Masseeh and ‘Eessa Ibnu Maryam have clear significance and, according to Islamic belief, were given by Allaah Himself, highlighting a unique identity for the Prophet and Messenger known in English as "Jesus, the Messiah, son of Mary." However, in many English translations, these names are often rendered as "Christ" or "Jesus," aligning with familiar terms from the New Testament.
This shift in naming could be seen as a form of adaptation, where translators and scholars historically opted to use well-known Christian terms like "God," "Jesus," and "Christ" for accessibility, especially in Western contexts. However, these substitutions may also obscure the distinct Arabic terms and connotations present in the Quraan, such as the difference between Allaah and "God" or Al-Masseeh and "Christ." The decision to translate or adapt certain terms rather than retain their original forms may have inadvertently caused overlapping identities between Al-Masseehu ‘Eessa in the Quraan and the "Jesus Christ" figure of the New Testament.
For some, these translation choices suggest that the character of Al-Masseehu ‘Eessa could be understood as distinct in original Islamic sources compared to the "Jesus" of mainstream Christian doctrine, where there are doctrinal differences regarding his nature and mission. The Quraan consistently presents ‘Eessa with a singular title, lineage, and mission distinct from interpretations introduced in later Christian theology. This distinction, upheld by many Muslims, underscores a respect for names as intended in the original scripture, given that in Islam, the names and titles of prophets are considered divinely chosen and integral to their roles.
In summary, it could be argued that the changes in name presentation—whether from Allaah to "God" or from Al-Masseehu ‘Eessa to "Jesus Christ"—reflect differences in theological perspectives, cultural adaptations, or even translational decisions that may have altered the way these figures are perceived across religious traditions.