DavidNichols
Doofesh, Read Koran 65:4. Why do you do that with children?
Doofesh
DavidNichols, The Quraan, Chapter 65, Verse 4:
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Before answering your question on the basis of my understanding of the verse, I would like to cite the verse in its proper context, with the hope that you find the answer you are looking for. Remember that the chapter is titled "The Divorce".
O PROPHET WHEN you divorce women, divorce them at their appointed period, and calculate that period, and fear Allaah, your Lord. Do not expel them from their houses, nor should they go away themselves, unless they are openly guilty of adultery. These are the limits set by Allaah. Any one who exceeds the limits set by Allaah sins against his own self. You never know that Allaah may perchance lead to a new situation after this. (1)
When they have reached their appointed time, then either keep them lawfully or let them go honorably; but have two witnesses from among you, and give truthful evidence for (being acceptable to) Allaah. This is to warn him who believes in Allaah and the Last Day. Allaah will furnish a way out for him who fears Him, (2)
And provide for him from where he does not reckon. Allaah is sufficient for him who places his trust in Him. Certainly Allaah fulfills His purpose. Allaah has indeed fixed a measure of everything. (3)
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As for your women who have lost hope of menstruation, and in case you have a doubt, the prescribed period (of waiting) for them is three months, as also for those who have not menstruated yet. As for those who are pregnant, their prescribed period is until the delivery of the child. Allaah will make things easy for him who is mindful of Allaah. (4)
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This is the commandment of Allaah that is sent down to you. Allaah will forgive the ills of those who fear Him, and increase their reward. (5)
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Before answering your question on the basis of my understanding of the verse, I would like to cite the verse in its proper context, with the hope that you find the answer you are looking for. Remember that the chapter is titled "The Divorce".
O PROPHET WHEN you divorce women, divorce them at their appointed period, and calculate that period, and fear Allaah, your Lord. Do not expel them from their houses, nor should they go away themselves, unless they are openly guilty of adultery. These are the limits set by Allaah. Any one who exceeds the limits set by Allaah sins against his own self. You never know that Allaah may perchance lead to a new situation after this. (1)
When they have reached their appointed time, then either keep them lawfully or let them go honorably; but have two witnesses from among you, and give truthful evidence for (being acceptable to) Allaah. This is to warn him who believes in Allaah and the Last Day. Allaah will furnish a way out for him who fears Him, (2)
And provide for him from where he does not reckon. Allaah is sufficient for him who places his trust in Him. Certainly Allaah fulfills His purpose. Allaah has indeed fixed a measure of everything. (3)
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As for your women who have lost hope of menstruation, and in case you have a doubt, the prescribed period (of waiting) for them is three months, as also for those who have not menstruated yet. As for those who are pregnant, their prescribed period is until the delivery of the child. Allaah will make things easy for him who is mindful of Allaah. (4)
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This is the commandment of Allaah that is sent down to you. Allaah will forgive the ills of those who fear Him, and increase their reward. (5)
DavidNichols
Doofesh, Guess what Muhammad and a 9-year-old did together (Muslim 1422)?
Doofesh
DavidNichols, Were you witness of child rape?
"Why did they not bring four witnesses (in support of their charge)? And since they did not bring the four witnesses they are themselves liars in the sight of Allaah".
"Why did they not bring four witnesses (in support of their charge)? And since they did not bring the four witnesses they are themselves liars in the sight of Allaah".
Doofesh
DavidNichols, Quote the text of (Muslim 1422)!
DavidNichols
Doofesh, Why did Muhammad do that with a 9-year-old?
Doofesh
DavidNichols, The question is: What will be done to you asking this question?
Verily, those who oppose Allaah and His Messenger will be disgraced, as those before them (among the past nations) were disgraced. And We (Allaah) have sent down clear verses. And for the disbelievers is a disgracing torment. On that Day when Allaah will resurrect them all together and inform them of that which they did; ALLAAH HAS KEPT A RECORD OF IT, WHILE THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN IT. And Allaah is Witness over all things. Those who oppose Allaah and His Messenger, they will be among the lowest (most humiliated).
Verily, those who oppose Allaah and His Messenger will be disgraced, as those before them (among the past nations) were disgraced. And We (Allaah) have sent down clear verses. And for the disbelievers is a disgracing torment. On that Day when Allaah will resurrect them all together and inform them of that which they did; ALLAAH HAS KEPT A RECORD OF IT, WHILE THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN IT. And Allaah is Witness over all things. Those who oppose Allaah and His Messenger, they will be among the lowest (most humiliated).
Doofesh
DavidNichols, Aaishah reported: Allah's Apostle married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.
Marriage in Isslaam is built on three bases:
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- One is the marriage contract,
- Two attaining the age of maturity, and
- Third is life together under the same roof.
In the case of Aaishah, the contract marriage was established when she was 6 years under the custody of her father. It is permissible for a father to arrange the marriage of a young virgin. Maturity age was attained at the age of 9 years, as established in the relevant Hadeeth (A girl at nine is a woman). Moving to live together with Allaah’s Apostle took place after maturity, when she was 9 years old.
Marriage in Isslaam is built on three bases:
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- One is the marriage contract,
- Two attaining the age of maturity, and
- Third is life together under the same roof.
In the case of Aaishah, the contract marriage was established when she was 6 years under the custody of her father. It is permissible for a father to arrange the marriage of a young virgin. Maturity age was attained at the age of 9 years, as established in the relevant Hadeeth (A girl at nine is a woman). Moving to live together with Allaah’s Apostle took place after maturity, when she was 9 years old.
Doofesh
DavidNichols, Which is human: Burying one’s daughter alive or giving her to a husband in marriage?
As explained in The Quraan, pagan Arabs were ashamed of having daughters that they buried them alive:
“They (disbelievers) attribute daughters to Allaah, the glorious, but for themselves whatsoever they please. Yet when news of the birth of a daughter reaches one of them, his face is darkened, and he is overwhelmed with silent grief, and he hides from people for shame at the news, (and he is at a loss) whether he should keep her with shame, or bury her in the soil. How bad is the judgment that they make!
As explained in The Quraan, pagan Arabs were ashamed of having daughters that they buried them alive:
“They (disbelievers) attribute daughters to Allaah, the glorious, but for themselves whatsoever they please. Yet when news of the birth of a daughter reaches one of them, his face is darkened, and he is overwhelmed with silent grief, and he hides from people for shame at the news, (and he is at a loss) whether he should keep her with shame, or bury her in the soil. How bad is the judgment that they make!
Doofesh
DavidNichols, You quoted Verse 65:4. wrongly suspecting that it is about sex. You have been blind to verses that tell clearly that this is a case of Allaah giving his Messenger a wife to marry:
Verse 33:37. When you (Muhammad) said to him who had been favored by Allaah and was favored by you: "Keep your wife to yourself and fear Allaah," you were hiding something Allaah was about to bring to light, for you had fear of men, though you should fear Allaah more. And when Zaid was through with her, WE (ALLAAH) GAVE HER TO YOU IN MARRIAGE, so that it may not remain a sin for the Believers (to marry) the wives of their adopted sons when they are through with them. Allaah’s command is to be fulfilled.
Verse 33:38. is a common command of Allaah relating to the Prophet:
“There is no constraint on the Prophet in what Allaah has decreed for him. This has been the way of Allaah with (Prophets) who have gone before you (Muhammad), and Allaah’s command is a determined act.”
Verse 33:50. Allaah made lawful to his Prophet to have wives:
“We have made lawful for you, O Prophet, wives to whom you have given their dower, and Allaah-given maids and captives you have married, and the daughters of your father's brothers and daughters of your father's sisters, and daughters of your mother's brothers and sisters, who migrated with you; and a believing woman who offers herself to the Prophet if the Prophet desires to marry her. This is a privilege only for you and not the other believers. We (Allaah) know what We have ordained for them about their wives and maids they possess, so that you may be free of blame, for Allaah is forgiving and kind.”
33:52. Then when all Allaah’s commands relevant to the subject have been exhausted, a closing command was instituted:
“No other women are lawful for you after this except those you have married, nor to change your present wives for other women even though their beauty should appeal to you. Allaah is watchful of everything.”
Verse 33:37. When you (Muhammad) said to him who had been favored by Allaah and was favored by you: "Keep your wife to yourself and fear Allaah," you were hiding something Allaah was about to bring to light, for you had fear of men, though you should fear Allaah more. And when Zaid was through with her, WE (ALLAAH) GAVE HER TO YOU IN MARRIAGE, so that it may not remain a sin for the Believers (to marry) the wives of their adopted sons when they are through with them. Allaah’s command is to be fulfilled.
Verse 33:38. is a common command of Allaah relating to the Prophet:
“There is no constraint on the Prophet in what Allaah has decreed for him. This has been the way of Allaah with (Prophets) who have gone before you (Muhammad), and Allaah’s command is a determined act.”
Verse 33:50. Allaah made lawful to his Prophet to have wives:
“We have made lawful for you, O Prophet, wives to whom you have given their dower, and Allaah-given maids and captives you have married, and the daughters of your father's brothers and daughters of your father's sisters, and daughters of your mother's brothers and sisters, who migrated with you; and a believing woman who offers herself to the Prophet if the Prophet desires to marry her. This is a privilege only for you and not the other believers. We (Allaah) know what We have ordained for them about their wives and maids they possess, so that you may be free of blame, for Allaah is forgiving and kind.”
33:52. Then when all Allaah’s commands relevant to the subject have been exhausted, a closing command was instituted:
“No other women are lawful for you after this except those you have married, nor to change your present wives for other women even though their beauty should appeal to you. Allaah is watchful of everything.”
THE PROPHET IS A LEGISLATIVE PROJECT OF ALLAAH
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[33:38]
There is not to be upon the Prophet any discomfort concerning that which Allaah has imposed upon him. [This is] the established way of Allaah with those [prophets] who have passed on before. And ever is the command of Allah a destiny decreed.
[33:50]
O Prophet, indeed We (Allaah) have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allaah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We (Allaah) certainly know what We (Allaah) have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allaah Forgiving and Merciful.
[33:51]
You, [O Muhammad], may put aside whom you will of them or take to yourself whom you will. And any that you desire of those [wives] from whom you had [temporarily] separated - there is no blame upon you [in returning her]. That is more suitable that they should be content and not grieve and that they should be satisfied with what you have given them - all of them. And Allaah knows what is in your hearts. And ever is Allaah Knowing and Forbearing.
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Not lawful to you, [O Muhammad], are [any additional] women after [this], nor [is it] for you to exchange them for [other] wives, even if their beauty were to please you, except what your right hand possesses. And ever is Allaah, over all things, an Observer.