WHAT DOES (OFFICIAL) YUSUF ESTES CHANNE
THINK ABOUT THE FOLLOWING STORY:
The person who died on the cross was Judas and
became the Lord Jesus
Jesus is nobody but Judas
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Allaah
cursed the Jews for their breaking the covenant, their disbelief in
the signs of Allaah, and their killing of prophets of Allaah without
right.
In Luke 22:48. Judas is seen betraying the Son of Man with a kiss.
It is at this (kiss) moment that Allaah cast the resemblance of Al-Masseehu Eessa ibnu Maryam on Judas. Now Judas is taken to be crucified, mistaken for the real man.
In Luke 22:67. Judas was asked: Art thou the Christ? tell us! And he said unto them, If I tell you (i.e. that I am Judas, not Jesus), you will not believe.
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? I.e.: My God, my God, why did you leave me? (Matthew 46:27). The one who shouted was Judas hanging on the cross. Judas was calling his Lord "Jehovah". It is not reasonable that the one shouting is the Lord Jesus. And in the Quraan, Al-Masseehu Eessa Ibnu Maryam, was not crucified, but Allaah raised him up to him, so he is not the one who shouted. Eessa has no objection against Allaah, of whom he always said, "My Lord and your Lord" is Allaah.
Allaah raised Al-Masseeha Eessa ibna Maryam to Himself. Soon Eessa will descend by the white minaret in east Damascus, wearing two lightly saffron-dyed garments, and placing his hands on the wings of two Angels.
As Judas was missing in the aftermath of crucifixion, the Jews realized that Judas was the one who died on the cross. The Jews retrieved the body of the crucified Jew (Judas) to hide their failure in their plotting and enmity towards Allaah. Judas was found hanging on a tree 4 days after Crucifixion.
@JonJVlogs01
This is not true
@mohammaddoofesh4963
@JonJVlogs01
For me it is true and I believe it.
For you it is not true and you do not believe it.
I have given a detailed explanation to support my claim.
What is your argument that this is not true?
I suggest that you respond to my points one by one.
take the first point:
Allaah cursed the Jews for their breaking the covenant, their disbelief in the signs of Allaah, and their killing of prophets of Allaah without right.
@mohammaddoofesh4963
@JonJVlogs01
No comment on Part 1; let us move to Part 2:
In Luke 22:48. Judas is seen betraying the Son of Man with a kiss.
@JonJVlogs01
@mohammaddoofesh4963 I was busy with life since making my initial comment. Here is a short response for now... It is true that God punished His own people for not believing the prophets He sent to warn them of His punishment. And it is true that Judas betrayed Jesus with a kiss.
The first problem with your comment is that it is a story that you made up by trying to change verses to mean what you want it to mean. Let's look at Luke 22:67. Jesus is questioned about whether He is the Christ. Jesus said to them (the council of the chief priests and scribes) "If I tell you, you will by no means believe." The chief priests, scribes, and pharisees from early on in Jesus' ministry sought to put Him to death because He claimed to be the Son of God. The Bible states this just a few verses later (Luke 22:70). "Then they all said, 'Are You then the Son of God?' So He said to them, 'You say that I am.'" The claim to be the son of God to the Scribes and Pharisees was a blasphemous claim. That doesn't mean Jesus couldn't make that claim. It also doesn't mean that Jesus was not God or that someone else somehow took the place of Jesus on the cross. By the way, Judas hanged himself while Jesus was still on trial (Matthew 27:1-5).
@mohammaddoofesh4963
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@JonJVlogs01
Thank you for your short reply. I do not wish to push you to answer me. Take your time, but keep the interest.
"I AM ALLAAH", not GOD, not YAHWEH, not JESUS, not YESHU
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The expression "I am Allaah" is repeated in The Quraan 3 times relevant to Allaah's speaking directly to Prophet Moossa:
- "Verily! I am Allaah! There is no god but I, so (O Moossa) worship Me and perform prayers for My Remembrance".
- "O Moossa! Verily it is I, Allaah, the All-Mighty, the All-Wise".
- "O Moossa! Verily I am Allaah, the Lord of mankind, jinn and all that exists!
"God" is a dictionary word with capital G. Those who translated the Bible deliberately provided this translation to replace the proper name of Allaah. As a name, Allaah is mentioned in the ARABIC BIBLE 2,245 times; and it is mentioned in the Quraan 2,153 times. YAHWEH is mentioned in the Arabic Bible 14 times only. God is the deity believed to have begotten a son or that he is a composite of three gods together forming the one god in trinity. Allaah has no partners, associates or sons. Also, Allaah is one beyond division. Allaah begets not and never was begotten. Allaah is The Creator.
"God" is a generic word. Those who adopt this word aim at having an anonymous God. The significance of anonymity lies in the fact that every single individual can have his own God, who is actually one's vain desires. Adopting an anonymous God enables disbelievers in The Creator to claim that God gave humanity absolute free will to do anything at all, including the most heinous of inhumane crimes that have gone unpunished throughout history.
وَاللَّهُ خَلَقَكُمْ ثُمَّ يَتَوَفَّاكُمْ
وَمِنكُم مَّن يُرَدُّ إِلَىٰ أَرْذَلِ الْعُمُرِ لِكَيْ لَا يَعْلَمَ بَعْدَ عِلْمٍ شَيْئًا
إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ قَدِيرٌ
THIS, HE (ALLAAH) HAS ADVISED YOU
This statement is revealed 3 times
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Verse 6:151:
Say (O Muhammad), "Come, I will recite what your Lord (Allaah) has prohibited to you. [Allaah advised] that you not associate anything with Him, and to parents, good treatment, and do not kill your children out of poverty; We (Allaah) will provide for you and them. And do not approach immoralities - what is apparent of them and what is concealed. And do not kill the soul which Allaah has forbidden [to be killed] except by [legal] right. This He (Allaah) has advised you that you may use reason."
Verse 6:152:
And do not approach the orphan's property except in a way that is best until he reaches maturity. And give full measure and weight in justice. We (Allaah) do not charge any soul except [with that within] its capacity. And when you testify, be just, even if [it concerns] a near relative. And the covenant of Allaah fulfill. This He (Allaah) advised you that you may remember.
Verse 5:153:
And, [moreover], this is My (Allaah's) path, which is straight, so follow it; and do not follow [other] ways, for you will be separated from His (Allaah's) way. This He (Allaah) has advised you that you may become righteous.
The
Quraan is the divine word of Allaah, The Creator. Who else other than
The Creator knows the secrets of creation?
The Quraan is neither a book of science nor a book of miracles. The Quraan is a book "verses" (explanatory statements) and a book of "signs" (evidence of Allaah's existence, power, knowledge, justice, wisdom, sovereignty, etc.).
Divorced women remain in waiting for three periods, and it is not lawful for them to conceal what Allaah has created in their wombs if they believe in Allaah and the Last Day. And their husbands have more right to take them back in this [period] if they want reconciliation. And due to the wives is similar to what is expected of them, according to what is reasonable. But the men have a degree over them. And Allaah is Exalted in Might and is Wise.
And those who are taken in death among you and leave wives behind - they, [the wives, shall] wait four months and ten [days]. And when they have fulfilled their term, then there is no blame upon you for what they do with themselves in an acceptable manner. And Allaah is [fully] Acquainted with what you do.
And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated yet. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allaah - He will make for him of his matter ease.
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Doofesh
This war is not a Hamas affair. It is a war by the "Axis of Resistance" comprising Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, and Yemen. Iran is leading the AoR on the strength of a heavenly mandate.
It is sheer shortsightedness on the part of Israel to think that Gaza is the only enemy that has to be fought, and that Israel has one border only, that of Gaza.
It is sheer shortsightedness on the part of the US to think that the other members of the AoR will be just standing and watching, and that the confrontation will be confined to the Gaza front, and that US navy and US military bases in the region will be safe haven for US Military.
It is sheer shortsightedness on the part of Israel to think that Gaza is the only enemy that has to be fought, and that Israel has one border only, that of Gaza.
It is sheer shortsightedness on the part of the US to think that the other members of the AoR will be just standing and watching, and that the confrontation will be confined to the Gaza front, and that US navy and US military bases in the region will be safe haven for US Military.
Lara Antipova
Doofesh, The battlefront should be shifted to the economically advanced and politically influential Western world, where many recent global conflicts have been conceived and orchestrated.
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Doofesh
Lara Antipova, This war is inflicted by Allaah against his enemies in The Holy Land and in the West:
The end of Israel is imminent
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And We (Allaah) conveyed to the Children of Israel in the Scripture that, "You will surely cause corruption on the earth twice, and you will surely reach [a degree of] great haughtiness.
So when the [time of] promise came for the first of them, We (Allaah) sent against you servants of Ours - those of great military might, and they probed [even] into the homes, and it was a promise fulfilled.
Then We (Allaah) gave back to you a return victory over them. And We reinforced you with wealth and sons and made you more numerous in manpower.
"If you (Jews) do good, you do good for yourselves; and if you do evil, [you do it] to yourselves." Then when the final promise becomes due, [We (Allaah) shall send out your enemies] to sadden your faces and to enter the Massjid (Al-Aqssaa), as they entered it the first time, and to destroy (your) haughtiness with [total] destruction.
The end of the US Empire is inevitable
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- And when We (Allaah) decide to destroy a nation, We send a definite order to those among them who lead a life of luxury. Then, they transgress therein, and thus the word (of torment) is justified against it (them). Then We destroy it (them) with complete destruction.
- There is not a nation but We (Allaah) shall cause it to perish before the Day of Judgment, or punish it with a dreadful torment: that is written in the (eternal) Record.
The end of Israel is imminent
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And We (Allaah) conveyed to the Children of Israel in the Scripture that, "You will surely cause corruption on the earth twice, and you will surely reach [a degree of] great haughtiness.
So when the [time of] promise came for the first of them, We (Allaah) sent against you servants of Ours - those of great military might, and they probed [even] into the homes, and it was a promise fulfilled.
Then We (Allaah) gave back to you a return victory over them. And We reinforced you with wealth and sons and made you more numerous in manpower.
"If you (Jews) do good, you do good for yourselves; and if you do evil, [you do it] to yourselves." Then when the final promise becomes due, [We (Allaah) shall send out your enemies] to sadden your faces and to enter the Massjid (Al-Aqssaa), as they entered it the first time, and to destroy (your) haughtiness with [total] destruction.
The end of the US Empire is inevitable
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- And when We (Allaah) decide to destroy a nation, We send a definite order to those among them who lead a life of luxury. Then, they transgress therein, and thus the word (of torment) is justified against it (them). Then We destroy it (them) with complete destruction.
- There is not a nation but We (Allaah) shall cause it to perish before the Day of Judgment, or punish it with a dreadful torment: that is written in the (eternal) Record.
Lara Antipova
Doofesh, "O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted." (Quran 49:13)
"The end of the US Empire is inevitable." I agree.
These verses from the Quran emphasize the concept of divine justice and accountability. They serve as a reminder that, according to Islamic belief, all nations will be held accountable for their actions. Believers are encouraged to reflect on these verses, seeking to live righteous lives and promote peace, understanding, and justice in the world, so as to avoid the consequences mentioned in these verses. It's essential to approach these teachings with humility and a commitment to making the world a better place.
concerning the reachest countries in the Arab and Muslem world_ Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman-point your finger there.
"We" is not Allah.
During the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad, there were several places in the Arabian Peninsula that experienced conflicts or wars with him and the early Muslim community.
Battle of Badr (624 CE): This was the first major battle between the Muslims of Medina and the Quraysh of Mecca, resulting in a Muslim victory.
Battle of Uhud (625 CE): Occurred near the city of Medina and was a significant conflict with the Quraysh. The battle had mixed results, with both sides experiencing losses.
Battle of the Trench (627 CE): Also known as the Battle of the Confederates, it involved a coalition of Arab tribes attempting to attack Medina. The Muslims successfully defended the city by digging a trench around it.
Conquest of Mecca (630 CE): Mecca, the city of the Quraysh, saw a peaceful entry by the Prophet Muhammad and his followers after a treaty was broken by the Quraysh.
ISRAEL is not mentioned here.
"The end of the US Empire is inevitable." I agree.
These verses from the Quran emphasize the concept of divine justice and accountability. They serve as a reminder that, according to Islamic belief, all nations will be held accountable for their actions. Believers are encouraged to reflect on these verses, seeking to live righteous lives and promote peace, understanding, and justice in the world, so as to avoid the consequences mentioned in these verses. It's essential to approach these teachings with humility and a commitment to making the world a better place.
concerning the reachest countries in the Arab and Muslem world_ Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman-point your finger there.
"We" is not Allah.
During the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad, there were several places in the Arabian Peninsula that experienced conflicts or wars with him and the early Muslim community.
Battle of Badr (624 CE): This was the first major battle between the Muslims of Medina and the Quraysh of Mecca, resulting in a Muslim victory.
Battle of Uhud (625 CE): Occurred near the city of Medina and was a significant conflict with the Quraysh. The battle had mixed results, with both sides experiencing losses.
Battle of the Trench (627 CE): Also known as the Battle of the Confederates, it involved a coalition of Arab tribes attempting to attack Medina. The Muslims successfully defended the city by digging a trench around it.
Conquest of Mecca (630 CE): Mecca, the city of the Quraysh, saw a peaceful entry by the Prophet Muhammad and his followers after a treaty was broken by the Quraysh.
ISRAEL is not mentioned here.
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Doofesh
Lara Antipova, PART 1 – THE US
America declared a "Crusade against Isslaam" under disguise of the "War on Terror". Isslaam is the religion of Allaah, The All-Powerful.
Soon after 9/11, the US, West & Allies waged a crusade against Isslaam. To ensure participation by some subservient Musslim countries, the name was changed to the "War On Terror" considering Isslaam as a religion of terror, and Musslims as terrorists.
It is not the whole World that is threatening the Western civilization. It is the West who invaded and subjugated the whole World. Today the West are protecting those who burn and tread on The Quraan. This should end. The fact is that Musslim countries are captives of the West renders them incapable of opposing the West.
The Quraan is the divine word of Allaah. Isslaam is the religion of Allaah. Allaah is The Master of The Day Of Judgment (known in Western theology as Apocalypse). Now Allaah is showing signs of the imminent fall of the West as has been seen in Afghanistan. It is now time for apocalyptic signs to appear.
A scene of the spectacular return of Al-Masseehu Eessa ibnu Maryam:
… At this very time (of the Dajjaal's/impostor's wandering), Allaah sends Al-Masseehu ibnu Maryam, who will descend by the white minaret in east Damascus, wearing two lightly saffron-dyed garments, and placing his hands on the wings of two Angels. When he lowers his head, beads of perspiration fall from it; and when he raises it up, beads like pearls scatter from it. Every non-believer who smells his odor will die; and his breath reaches as far as he is able to see. He would then search for him (the Dajjaal/Impostor) until he catches hold of him at the gate of Ludd, and he will kill him.
PART 2 – THE JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL
Question 1: The pronoun “We” is mentioned throughout The Quraan to refer to Allaah. Can you cite a verse of The Quraan in which this pronoun does not refer to Allaah?
Question 2: Can you relate the following verse of The Quraan to one of the battles which you mentioned in your reply?
It is He (Allaah) who expelled the ones who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture from their homes at the first gathering. You did not think they would leave, and they thought that their fortresses would protect them from Allaah ; but [the decree of] Allaah came upon them from where they had not expected, and He (Allaah) cast terror into their hearts [so] they destroyed their houses by their [own] hands and the hands of the believers. So take warning, O people of vision.
America declared a "Crusade against Isslaam" under disguise of the "War on Terror". Isslaam is the religion of Allaah, The All-Powerful.
Soon after 9/11, the US, West & Allies waged a crusade against Isslaam. To ensure participation by some subservient Musslim countries, the name was changed to the "War On Terror" considering Isslaam as a religion of terror, and Musslims as terrorists.
It is not the whole World that is threatening the Western civilization. It is the West who invaded and subjugated the whole World. Today the West are protecting those who burn and tread on The Quraan. This should end. The fact is that Musslim countries are captives of the West renders them incapable of opposing the West.
The Quraan is the divine word of Allaah. Isslaam is the religion of Allaah. Allaah is The Master of The Day Of Judgment (known in Western theology as Apocalypse). Now Allaah is showing signs of the imminent fall of the West as has been seen in Afghanistan. It is now time for apocalyptic signs to appear.
A scene of the spectacular return of Al-Masseehu Eessa ibnu Maryam:
… At this very time (of the Dajjaal's/impostor's wandering), Allaah sends Al-Masseehu ibnu Maryam, who will descend by the white minaret in east Damascus, wearing two lightly saffron-dyed garments, and placing his hands on the wings of two Angels. When he lowers his head, beads of perspiration fall from it; and when he raises it up, beads like pearls scatter from it. Every non-believer who smells his odor will die; and his breath reaches as far as he is able to see. He would then search for him (the Dajjaal/Impostor) until he catches hold of him at the gate of Ludd, and he will kill him.
PART 2 – THE JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL
Question 1: The pronoun “We” is mentioned throughout The Quraan to refer to Allaah. Can you cite a verse of The Quraan in which this pronoun does not refer to Allaah?
Question 2: Can you relate the following verse of The Quraan to one of the battles which you mentioned in your reply?
It is He (Allaah) who expelled the ones who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture from their homes at the first gathering. You did not think they would leave, and they thought that their fortresses would protect them from Allaah ; but [the decree of] Allaah came upon them from where they had not expected, and He (Allaah) cast terror into their hearts [so] they destroyed their houses by their [own] hands and the hands of the believers. So take warning, O people of vision.
Lara Antipova
Doofesh, One thing to make clear here: I know more than you think, and do not give me some quasi-interpretations of the Quran; you obviously have your own interpretation. We must prevent the bloodshed of innocent civilians on both sides.
Surah Al-Ma'idah (Chapter 5), verse 32:
"Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors."
This verse underscores the idea that taking a single human life unjustly is a grave sin, while saving a life is a noble act. It reinforces the importance of preventing war and unnecessary killing.
Surah Al-Ma'idah (Chapter 5), verse 32:
"Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors."
This verse underscores the idea that taking a single human life unjustly is a grave sin, while saving a life is a noble act. It reinforces the importance of preventing war and unnecessary killing.
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Doofesh
Lara Antipova, It is clear that you know more than I think.
So, please answer my questions before moving farther:
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Question 1: The pronoun “We” is mentioned throughout The Quraan to refer to Allaah. Can you cite a verse of The Quraan in which this pronoun does not refer to Allaah?
Question 2: Can you relate the following verse of The Quraan to one of the battles which you mentioned in your reply?
So, please answer my questions before moving farther:
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Question 1: The pronoun “We” is mentioned throughout The Quraan to refer to Allaah. Can you cite a verse of The Quraan in which this pronoun does not refer to Allaah?
Question 2: Can you relate the following verse of The Quraan to one of the battles which you mentioned in your reply?
Lara Antipova
Doofesh, قُلْ ۞ إِنِّي مَعَكُمْ رَقِيبٌ ۖ يَرَىٰ عَبَادِي بِكُمْ ۖ وَنَحْنُ قَرِيبٌ ۖ أُولِي الْأَلْبَابِ
Surah Al-Kahf (18:19):
"Say, 'I am only a man like you, to whom has been revealed that your god is one God. So whoever would hope for the meeting with his Lord - let him do righteous work and not associate in the worship of his Lord anyone.'"
Surah Al-Kahf (18:19):
"Say, 'I am only a man like you, to whom has been revealed that your god is one God. So whoever would hope for the meeting with his Lord - let him do righteous work and not associate in the worship of his Lord anyone.'"
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Doofesh
Lara Antipova, You are playing a game with me: The text in Arabic is garbled and does not relate to the reference. The verse number and the English text are not compatible.
Please answer my questions if you are serious:
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Question 1: The pronoun “We” is mentioned throughout The Quraan to refer to Allaah. Can you cite a verse of The Quraan in which this pronoun does not refer to Allaah?
Question 2: Can you relate the following verse of The Quraan to one of the battles which you mentioned in your reply?
Please answer my questions if you are serious:
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Question 1: The pronoun “We” is mentioned throughout The Quraan to refer to Allaah. Can you cite a verse of The Quraan in which this pronoun does not refer to Allaah?
Question 2: Can you relate the following verse of The Quraan to one of the battles which you mentioned in your reply?
Lara Antipova
Doofesh, قُلْ ۞ إِنِّي مَعَكُمْ رَقِيبٌ ۖ يَرَىٰ عَبَادِي بِكُمْ ۖ وَنَحْنُ قَرِيبٌ ۖ أُولِي الْأَلْبَابِ not garbled "Say, 'Indeed, I am with you, a vigilant observer. My servants are the ones who have believed in you, and We are near to them who have understanding." WHO HAVE UNDERSTANDING" ٱلسَّلَامُ عَلَيْكُمْ= As-salamu alaykum
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Doofesh
Lara Antipova, You are wasting my time!
I say the Arabic text (supposed to be in The Quraan) is garbled, but you give me a nonsense translation in English. The Arabic text, the reference number, and the English text are three different things - a whisper of Ashaitaan.
Now, for the benefit of other readers of these comments I answer the two questions:
- The answer to question 1 is that the pronoun “We” refers to Allaah, not to the three persons of the trinity. “We” is a plural of respect and royalty.
- The quoted verse (chapter 59 Al-Hashr, the Gathering) relates to the battle of Khaibar, the fortress resided by the main one of the 4 Jewish communities in the Madeenah region. Those Jews committed corruption in the land of the Prophet and broke the covenants with him. That was the first gathering and expulsion of Jews outside the Arabian peninsula.
Chapter 59 Al-Ahzaab (Coalition) gives more details:
And Allaah repelled those who disbelieved, in their rage, not having obtained any good. And sufficient was Allaah for the believers in battle, and ever is Allaah Powerful and Exalted in Might.
And He (Allaah) brought down those who supported them among the People of the Scripture (Jews) from their fortresses and cast terror into their hearts [so that] a party you killed, and you took captive a party.
And He (Allaah) caused you (Believers in Allaah) to inherit their land and their homes and their properties and a land which you have not trodden. And ever is Allaah, over all things, competent.
I say the Arabic text (supposed to be in The Quraan) is garbled, but you give me a nonsense translation in English. The Arabic text, the reference number, and the English text are three different things - a whisper of Ashaitaan.
Now, for the benefit of other readers of these comments I answer the two questions:
- The answer to question 1 is that the pronoun “We” refers to Allaah, not to the three persons of the trinity. “We” is a plural of respect and royalty.
- The quoted verse (chapter 59 Al-Hashr, the Gathering) relates to the battle of Khaibar, the fortress resided by the main one of the 4 Jewish communities in the Madeenah region. Those Jews committed corruption in the land of the Prophet and broke the covenants with him. That was the first gathering and expulsion of Jews outside the Arabian peninsula.
Chapter 59 Al-Ahzaab (Coalition) gives more details:
And Allaah repelled those who disbelieved, in their rage, not having obtained any good. And sufficient was Allaah for the believers in battle, and ever is Allaah Powerful and Exalted in Might.
And He (Allaah) brought down those who supported them among the People of the Scripture (Jews) from their fortresses and cast terror into their hearts [so that] a party you killed, and you took captive a party.
And He (Allaah) caused you (Believers in Allaah) to inherit their land and their homes and their properties and a land which you have not trodden. And ever is Allaah, over all things, competent.
Lara Antipova
Doofesh, You, yourself are wasting your time. As-salamu alaykum!
Doofesh
Lara Antipova, Now I know that you know much, much, more less than I think.
By conveying the divine message as presented in The Quraan, Allaah rewards me irrespective of whether or not anyone accepts or rejects it. I have learned that guidance to the straight path is vested in Allaah. No person would believe in Allaah except with the permission of Allaah
By conveying the divine message as presented in The Quraan, Allaah rewards me irrespective of whether or not anyone accepts or rejects it. I have learned that guidance to the straight path is vested in Allaah. No person would believe in Allaah except with the permission of Allaah
Lara Antipova
Doofesh, Wa alaikum assalam!
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Doofesh
Lara Antipova, You quoted Surah Al-Kahf (18:19). The English text is as follows:
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And similarly, We awakened them that they might question one another. Said a speaker from among them, "How long have you remained [here]?" They said, "We have remained a day or part of a day." They said, "Your Lord is most knowing of how long you remained. So send one of you with this silver coin of yours to the city and let him look to which is the best of food and bring you provision from it and let him be cautious. And let no one be aware of you.
The Arabic text, which is the authentic text of The Quraan, looks as follows:
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وَكَذَٰلِكَ بَعَثْنَاهُمْ لِيَتَسَاءَلُوا بَيْنَهُمْ ۚ قَالَ قَائِلٌ مِّنْهُمْ كَمْ لَبِثْتُمْ ۖ قَالُوا لَبِثْنَا يَوْمًا أَوْ بَعْضَ يَوْمٍ ۚ قَالُوا رَبُّكُمْ أَعْلَمُ بِمَا لَبِثْتُمْ فَابْعَثُوا أَحَدَكُم بِوَرِقِكُمْ هَٰذِهِ إِلَى الْمَدِينَةِ فَلْيَنظُرْ أَيُّهَا أَزْكَىٰ طَعَامًا فَلْيَأْتِكُم بِرِزْقٍ مِّنْهُ وَلْيَتَلَطَّفْ وَلَا يُشْعِرَنَّ بِكُمْ أَحَدًا
The question is: What do you want to say?
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And similarly, We awakened them that they might question one another. Said a speaker from among them, "How long have you remained [here]?" They said, "We have remained a day or part of a day." They said, "Your Lord is most knowing of how long you remained. So send one of you with this silver coin of yours to the city and let him look to which is the best of food and bring you provision from it and let him be cautious. And let no one be aware of you.
The Arabic text, which is the authentic text of The Quraan, looks as follows:
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وَكَذَٰلِكَ بَعَثْنَاهُمْ لِيَتَسَاءَلُوا بَيْنَهُمْ ۚ قَالَ قَائِلٌ مِّنْهُمْ كَمْ لَبِثْتُمْ ۖ قَالُوا لَبِثْنَا يَوْمًا أَوْ بَعْضَ يَوْمٍ ۚ قَالُوا رَبُّكُمْ أَعْلَمُ بِمَا لَبِثْتُمْ فَابْعَثُوا أَحَدَكُم بِوَرِقِكُمْ هَٰذِهِ إِلَى الْمَدِينَةِ فَلْيَنظُرْ أَيُّهَا أَزْكَىٰ طَعَامًا فَلْيَأْتِكُم بِرِزْقٍ مِّنْهُ وَلْيَتَلَطَّفْ وَلَا يُشْعِرَنَّ بِكُمْ أَحَدًا
The question is: What do you want to say?
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Lara Antipova
I say finally you have learned how to make your life easier, lol!
Doofesh
If you are able to say something, then you are able to answer my question about verse 18:19.
Lara Antipova
All this time I am actually working. Of course, I am willing to answer the question. I can't focus right now.
Doofesh
Wonderful! This is the right way of doing things.
Lara Antipova
Part of the story involves a group of young believers hiding out in a cave to avoid religious persecution and oppression. Allah protects them as they rest in the cave, and their tale teaches us a valuable lesson about faith and the safety of the believer.
The young men are debating how long they have been in the cave in this particular passage. They have been there for a long time, but because of their skewed sense of time, they are unaware exactly how long it has been. One of them recommends that someone should take their money and, being careful not to attract attention, go into the city to buy food.
This narrative is frequently used to illustrate how to put your trust in God's protection and the notion that He is the finest seer of the unseen. The idea of trusting on God's direction and providence, especially in trying and uncertain circumstances, is emphasized.
The young men are debating how long they have been in the cave in this particular passage. They have been there for a long time, but because of their skewed sense of time, they are unaware exactly how long it has been. One of them recommends that someone should take their money and, being careful not to attract attention, go into the city to buy food.
This narrative is frequently used to illustrate how to put your trust in God's protection and the notion that He is the finest seer of the unseen. The idea of trusting on God's direction and providence, especially in trying and uncertain circumstances, is emphasized.
Lara Antipova
Frankly, what I want to say is that there is no other way but a "two state solution". I want to say that Palestinians should create their state in Gaza and the Israeli should live in Israel. I want to say that civilians mustn't be sacrificed for any so called higher goals. Have you been in Israel or in the region?
Lara Antipova
What I would like to know is, as a proponent of the Quran, where do you see a solution to this terrible humanitarian crisis?
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Doofesh
Who is God? What is his name?
Doofesh
You say, I say, but Allaah's word is fulfilled.
Doofesh
Read the first page of chapter 17 (the one right before Al-Kahf). The solution is there, culminating into the story of the believing men whom Allaah protected his way.
And We (Allaah) conveyed to the Children of Israel in the Scripture that, "You will surely cause corruption on the earth twice, and you will surely reach [a degree of] great haughtiness.
So when the [time of] promise came for the first of them, We (Allaah) sent against you servants of Ours - those of great military might, and they probed [even] into the homes, and it was a promise fulfilled.
Then We (Allaah) gave back to you a return victory over them. And We reinforced you with wealth and sons and made you more numerous in manpower.
"If you (Jews) do good, you do good for yourselves; and if you do evil, [you do it] to yourselves." Then when the final promise becomes due, [We (Allaah) shall send out your enemies] to sadden your faces and to enter the Massjid (Al-Aqssaa), as they entered it the first time, and to destroy (your) haughtiness with [total] destruction.
And We (Allaah) conveyed to the Children of Israel in the Scripture that, "You will surely cause corruption on the earth twice, and you will surely reach [a degree of] great haughtiness.
So when the [time of] promise came for the first of them, We (Allaah) sent against you servants of Ours - those of great military might, and they probed [even] into the homes, and it was a promise fulfilled.
Then We (Allaah) gave back to you a return victory over them. And We reinforced you with wealth and sons and made you more numerous in manpower.
"If you (Jews) do good, you do good for yourselves; and if you do evil, [you do it] to yourselves." Then when the final promise becomes due, [We (Allaah) shall send out your enemies] to sadden your faces and to enter the Massjid (Al-Aqssaa), as they entered it the first time, and to destroy (your) haughtiness with [total] destruction.
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Lara Antipova
I have read your comments, and I asked you a question: " What I would like to know is, as a proponent of the Quran, where do you see a solution to this terrible humanitarian crisis?"
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Doofesh
The solution is in Allaah's hand. I did answer your question in my previous reply starting with the sentence "Read the first page of chapter 17 ..." and ending with the sentence "... and to destroy (your) haughtiness with [total] destruction."
Chapter 17 of The Quraan is titled Al-Issraa, which is the night journey of Prophet Muhammad from Al-Massjid Al-Haraam (in Mecca) to Al-Massjid Al-Aqssa (in Jerusalem). This chapter had a different title during the early days of Isslaam: Soorat Bani Issraaeel (Children of Israel). These have become Jews, enemies of Allaah.
Chapter 17 of The Quraan is followed by chapter 18 Al-Kahf. If you reflect on the verses of this chapter, you will find a similarity between the two situations in the two chapters: Jews persecuting Musslims. A group of Musslims (in Gaza) take shelter in underground tunnels and resist persecution while asking for Allaah's support and protection. Allaah caused the men in the cave to escape persecution through sleep. Allaah will cause the Musslims who are fighting in Allaah's cause to escape persecution through granting them victory over their enemies - Jews of Israel and Christians of the US.
Chapter 17 of The Quraan is titled Al-Issraa, which is the night journey of Prophet Muhammad from Al-Massjid Al-Haraam (in Mecca) to Al-Massjid Al-Aqssa (in Jerusalem). This chapter had a different title during the early days of Isslaam: Soorat Bani Issraaeel (Children of Israel). These have become Jews, enemies of Allaah.
Chapter 17 of The Quraan is followed by chapter 18 Al-Kahf. If you reflect on the verses of this chapter, you will find a similarity between the two situations in the two chapters: Jews persecuting Musslims. A group of Musslims (in Gaza) take shelter in underground tunnels and resist persecution while asking for Allaah's support and protection. Allaah caused the men in the cave to escape persecution through sleep. Allaah will cause the Musslims who are fighting in Allaah's cause to escape persecution through granting them victory over their enemies - Jews of Israel and Christians of the US.
THE CAVE and THE TUNNELS
Chapter 17 of The Quraan is titled Al-Issraa, which is the night journey of Prophet Muhammad from Al-Massjid Al-Haraam (in Mecca) to Al-Massjid Al-Aqssa (in Jerusalem). This chapter had a different title during the early days of Isslaam: Soorat Bani Issraaeel (Children of Israel). These have become Jews, enemies of Allaah.
Chapter 17 of The Quraan is followed by chapter 18 Al-Kahf. If you reflect on the verses of this chapter, you will find a similarity between the two situations in the two chapters: Jews persecuting Musslims. A group of Musslims (in Gaza) take shelter in underground tunnels and resist persecution while asking for Allaah's support and protection.
Allaah caused the men in the cave to escape persecution through sleep. Allaah will cause the Musslims who are fighting in Allaah's cause to escape persecution through granting them victory over their enemies - Jews of Israel and Christians of the US.
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Doofesh
Ana Karenina, Have you compared your quotation of "the Quran" with my quotation of The Quraan?
Earlier you disliked people’s talk about The Creator, yet you have talked about The Creator in the same wrong way. You ascribed to The Creator a text that is not of The Creator.
Earlier you disliked people’s talk about The Creator, yet you have talked about The Creator in the same wrong way. You ascribed to The Creator a text that is not of The Creator.
Doofesh
Ana Karenina, By quoting a book that looks like The Quraan, you have placed yourself on the side of ignorance. You know that “IGNORANCE PUNISHES BEINGS”.
May I ask:
Why have you picked up this particular quotation?
What message do you want to pass?
May I ask:
Why have you picked up this particular quotation?
What message do you want to pass?
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, Rumi: "Beware! Beware!
Don’t mistake me for this human form.
The soul is not obscured by forms.
Even if it were wrapped in a hundred folds of felt
the rays of the soul’s light
would still shine through."
Don’t mistake me for this human form.
The soul is not obscured by forms.
Even if it were wrapped in a hundred folds of felt
the rays of the soul’s light
would still shine through."
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Doofesh
Ana Karenina, Shall I inform you upon whom the devils descend?
They descend upon every sinful liar.
They listen eagerly, but most of them are liars.
And the poets - [only] the deviators follow them;
Do you not see that in every valley they roam;
And that they say what they do not do? -
Except those [poets] who believe (in Allaah) and do righteous deeds and remember Allaah often and defend [the Prophets] after they were wronged. And those who have wronged are going to know to what [kind of] return they will be returned.
They descend upon every sinful liar.
They listen eagerly, but most of them are liars.
And the poets - [only] the deviators follow them;
Do you not see that in every valley they roam;
And that they say what they do not do? -
Except those [poets] who believe (in Allaah) and do righteous deeds and remember Allaah often and defend [the Prophets] after they were wronged. And those who have wronged are going to know to what [kind of] return they will be returned.
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, If Muhhammad wasn't saved by the spider in that dessert cave, you wouldn't your religion. Have you ever thought of that?
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Doofesh
Ana Karenina, This thought must have been inspired to you by the Devil. Or it comes from a person whose brain is as thin as the filament of a spider. The author of the book placed his readers (you among them) on the side of ignorance. “IGNORANCE PUNISHES BEINGS”.
If you (Believers in Allaah) do not aid the Prophet - Allaah has already aided him when those who disbelieved had driven him out [of Makkah] as one of two, when they were in the cave and he said to his companion, "Do not grieve; indeed Allaah is with us." And Allaah sent down his tranquility upon him and supported him with angels you did not see and made the word of those who disbelieved the lowest, while the word of Allaah - that is the highest. And Allaah is Exalted in Might and Wise.
If you (Believers in Allaah) do not aid the Prophet - Allaah has already aided him when those who disbelieved had driven him out [of Makkah] as one of two, when they were in the cave and he said to his companion, "Do not grieve; indeed Allaah is with us." And Allaah sent down his tranquility upon him and supported him with angels you did not see and made the word of those who disbelieved the lowest, while the word of Allaah - that is the highest. And Allaah is Exalted in Might and Wise.
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, Hmmm, weird! You don't know much about your Prophet's life. I doubt you are speaking the truth.
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Doofesh
Ana Karenina, What is your next thought that you would like to share?
Doofesh
Doofesh, This is not funny. You and I are tackling an important issue: “IGNORANCE PUNISHES BEINGS”.
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, Repetitio est mater studiorum
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Doofesh
Doofesh, Thanks to Google translate that I do not need to learn a seventh language.
Back to business, I urge you to pass your second thought about your reading of The Quraan.
Back to business, I urge you to pass your second thought about your reading of The Quraan.
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, My gift 2 u
As-salamu alaykum!
In the realm of cyberspace, masks they don,
Deception's dance, truth is all but gone.
Chaos they sow, their goals they achieve,
As wise souls exit, falsehoods they disbelieve.
In this digital masquerade so grand,
Hidden identities like shifting sand,
They cloak themselves in virtual guise,
Yet the wise see through the clever disguise.
Departing the platform, they find their way,
Seeking truths where masks do not hold sway,
In the depths of reality's embrace,
They leave behind masks, in search of grace.
As-salamu alaykum!
In the realm of cyberspace, masks they don,
Deception's dance, truth is all but gone.
Chaos they sow, their goals they achieve,
As wise souls exit, falsehoods they disbelieve.
In this digital masquerade so grand,
Hidden identities like shifting sand,
They cloak themselves in virtual guise,
Yet the wise see through the clever disguise.
Departing the platform, they find their way,
Seeking truths where masks do not hold sway,
In the depths of reality's embrace,
They leave behind masks, in search of grace.
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Doofesh
Ana Karenina, Did you know that the English word 'gift' means 'poison' in German?!
Be sure not to mix up those two and get your loved ones the right gift!
I urge you to pass your second thought about your reading of The Quraan.
Be sure not to mix up those two and get your loved ones the right gift!
I urge you to pass your second thought about your reading of The Quraan.
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, Oh, what an astonishing linguistic feat you've just performed! Your knowledge of German must be truly unparalleled. I'll be sure to rush out and warn all my German-speaking friends not to accept any "gifts" from me. Can't have them thinking I'm trying to poison them, can we?
And as for my Quranic studies, I'll definitely reconsider my life choices now that you've graced me with your wisdom. Clearly, you're the one who should be giving the lectures, not those pesky scholars. Your insights are truly unparalleled, and I'm forever in your debt for setting me straight!
And as for my Quranic studies, I'll definitely reconsider my life choices now that you've graced me with your wisdom. Clearly, you're the one who should be giving the lectures, not those pesky scholars. Your insights are truly unparalleled, and I'm forever in your debt for setting me straight!
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Doofesh
Doofesh, I really appreciate your compliments. I am really grateful.
Still, I expect that you pass your second thought about your reading of The Quraan.
Still, I expect that you pass your second thought about your reading of The Quraan.
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, Dear friend, as we've traversed this journey, I feel compelled to share my path:
In the ancient land of Aria, a community of enlightened scholars known as the Arians sought profound wisdom amidst the breathtaking heights of the Karakoram and Himalayan snow-covered mountains. Inspired by the majesty of these towering peaks, the Arians dedicated their lives to unraveling the mysteries of the human mind and the roots of suffering.
Their teachings illuminated a sacred path to liberation, emphasizing the transformative power of study, contemplation, and meditation. Through these practices, individuals could unlock the profound wisdom of mindfulness, empathy, and compassion, fostering inner peace and harmony. The oral transmission of their insights ensured the endurance of their teachings, passed down through generations with an unwavering commitment to awareness and interconnectedness.
In this awe-inspiring setting, the Arians cultivated a profound awareness not only of the natural world but also of the human condition. Their wisdom, empathy, and compassion served as a guiding light for those who sought liberation from the relentless cycle of suffering, offering a timeless roadmap to inner serenity and a life filled with profound meaning.
I wish for you and all beings to attain the merit and become a recipient of this oral transmission.
In the ancient land of Aria, a community of enlightened scholars known as the Arians sought profound wisdom amidst the breathtaking heights of the Karakoram and Himalayan snow-covered mountains. Inspired by the majesty of these towering peaks, the Arians dedicated their lives to unraveling the mysteries of the human mind and the roots of suffering.
Their teachings illuminated a sacred path to liberation, emphasizing the transformative power of study, contemplation, and meditation. Through these practices, individuals could unlock the profound wisdom of mindfulness, empathy, and compassion, fostering inner peace and harmony. The oral transmission of their insights ensured the endurance of their teachings, passed down through generations with an unwavering commitment to awareness and interconnectedness.
In this awe-inspiring setting, the Arians cultivated a profound awareness not only of the natural world but also of the human condition. Their wisdom, empathy, and compassion served as a guiding light for those who sought liberation from the relentless cycle of suffering, offering a timeless roadmap to inner serenity and a life filled with profound meaning.
I wish for you and all beings to attain the merit and become a recipient of this oral transmission.
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Doofesh
Ana Karenina, Dear friend,
Mountains have heavenly, majestic stories in The Quraan. I invite you to explore one of them:
2:260. And [remember] when Ibraaheem said, "My Lord (Allaah), show me how You give life to the dead." [Allaah] said, "Have you not believed?" He said, "Yes, but [I ask] only that my heart may be satisfied." [Allaah] said, "Take four BIRDS and commit them to yourself. Then put on each MOUNTAN a portion of them; then call them - they will come to you in haste. And know that Allaah is Exalted in Might and Wise."
What can you tell me about this short story?
Mountains have heavenly, majestic stories in The Quraan. I invite you to explore one of them:
2:260. And [remember] when Ibraaheem said, "My Lord (Allaah), show me how You give life to the dead." [Allaah] said, "Have you not believed?" He said, "Yes, but [I ask] only that my heart may be satisfied." [Allaah] said, "Take four BIRDS and commit them to yourself. Then put on each MOUNTAN a portion of them; then call them - they will come to you in haste. And know that Allaah is Exalted in Might and Wise."
What can you tell me about this short story?
Doofesh
Ana Karenina, Translations of the verse to help you:
Sahih International: And [mention] when Abraham said, "My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead." [Allaah] said, "Have you not believed?" He said, "Yes, but [I ask] only that my heart may be satisfied." [Allaah] said, "Take four birds and commit them to yourself. Then [after slaughtering them] put on each hill a portion of them; then call them - they will come [flying] to you in haste. And know that Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise."
Pickthall: And when Abraham said (unto his Lord): My Lord! Show me how Thou givest life to the dead, He said: Dost thou not believe? Abraham said: Yea, but (I ask) in order that my heart may be at ease. (His Lord) said: Take four of the birds and cause them to incline unto thee, then place a part of them on each hill, then call them, they will come to thee in haste, and know that Allaah is Mighty, Wise.
Yusuf Ali: When Abraham said: "Show me, Lord, how You will raise the dead, " He replied: "Have you no faith?" He said "Yes, but just to reassure my heart." Allaah said, "Take four birds, draw them to you, and cut their bodies to pieces. Scatter them over the mountain-tops, then call them back. They will come swiftly to you. Know that Allaah is Mighty, Wise."
Shakir: And when Ibrahim said: My Lord! show me how Thou givest life to the dead, He said: What! and do you not believe? He said: Yes, but that my heart may be at ease. He said: Then take four of the birds, then train them to follow you, then place on every mountain a part of them, then call them, they will come to you flying; and know that Allaah is Mighty, Wise.
Muhammad Sarwar: When Abraham prayed, "Lord, show me how you bring the dead back to life," the Lord said, "Do you not yet believe?" Abraham replied, "I believe but want more confidence for my heart." God told him, "Take four birds, induce them to come to you, cut and scatter their bodies leaving parts on every mountain top, then call them and they will swiftly come to you." Know that Allaah is Majestic and Wise.
Mohsin Khan: And (remember) when Ibrahim (Abraham) said, "My Lord! Show me how You give life to the dead." He (Allaah) said: "Do you not believe?" He [Ibrahim (Abraham)] said: "Yes (I believe), but to be stronger in Faith." He said: "Take four birds, then cause them to incline towards you (then slaughter them, cut them into pieces), and then put a portion of them on every hill, and call them, they will come to you in haste. And know that Allaah is All-Mighty, All-Wise."
Arberry: And when Abraham said, 'My Lord, show me how Thou wilt give life to the dead,' He said, 'Why, dost thou not believe?' 'Yes,' he said, 'but that my heart may be at rest.' Said He, 'Take four birds, and twist them to thee, then set a part of them on every hill, then summon them, and they will come to thee running. And do thou know that Allaah is All-mighty, All-wise.'
Sahih International: And [mention] when Abraham said, "My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead." [Allaah] said, "Have you not believed?" He said, "Yes, but [I ask] only that my heart may be satisfied." [Allaah] said, "Take four birds and commit them to yourself. Then [after slaughtering them] put on each hill a portion of them; then call them - they will come [flying] to you in haste. And know that Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise."
Pickthall: And when Abraham said (unto his Lord): My Lord! Show me how Thou givest life to the dead, He said: Dost thou not believe? Abraham said: Yea, but (I ask) in order that my heart may be at ease. (His Lord) said: Take four of the birds and cause them to incline unto thee, then place a part of them on each hill, then call them, they will come to thee in haste, and know that Allaah is Mighty, Wise.
Yusuf Ali: When Abraham said: "Show me, Lord, how You will raise the dead, " He replied: "Have you no faith?" He said "Yes, but just to reassure my heart." Allaah said, "Take four birds, draw them to you, and cut their bodies to pieces. Scatter them over the mountain-tops, then call them back. They will come swiftly to you. Know that Allaah is Mighty, Wise."
Shakir: And when Ibrahim said: My Lord! show me how Thou givest life to the dead, He said: What! and do you not believe? He said: Yes, but that my heart may be at ease. He said: Then take four of the birds, then train them to follow you, then place on every mountain a part of them, then call them, they will come to you flying; and know that Allaah is Mighty, Wise.
Muhammad Sarwar: When Abraham prayed, "Lord, show me how you bring the dead back to life," the Lord said, "Do you not yet believe?" Abraham replied, "I believe but want more confidence for my heart." God told him, "Take four birds, induce them to come to you, cut and scatter their bodies leaving parts on every mountain top, then call them and they will swiftly come to you." Know that Allaah is Majestic and Wise.
Mohsin Khan: And (remember) when Ibrahim (Abraham) said, "My Lord! Show me how You give life to the dead." He (Allaah) said: "Do you not believe?" He [Ibrahim (Abraham)] said: "Yes (I believe), but to be stronger in Faith." He said: "Take four birds, then cause them to incline towards you (then slaughter them, cut them into pieces), and then put a portion of them on every hill, and call them, they will come to you in haste. And know that Allaah is All-Mighty, All-Wise."
Arberry: And when Abraham said, 'My Lord, show me how Thou wilt give life to the dead,' He said, 'Why, dost thou not believe?' 'Yes,' he said, 'but that my heart may be at rest.' Said He, 'Take four birds, and twist them to thee, then set a part of them on every hill, then summon them, and they will come to thee running. And do thou know that Allaah is All-mighty, All-wise.'
Doofesh
Ana Karenina, You said: “Abhidhamma, a detailed study of how our minds work, exploring things like consciousness and perception.”
You also said: “Abhidharma is about understanding the mind, ...”.
The Creator said: “And Allah has brought you forth from the wombs of your mothers-- you did not know anything-- and He gave you hearing and sight and hearts that you may be cognizant (of The Creator).
Accordingly, if I may compare the human being to a computer I say that the human MIND is no more than the PROCESSOR. The HEART of a human being is HARD DISK. It is, therefore, the heart that matters.
You also said: “Abhidharma is about understanding the mind, ...”.
The Creator said: “And Allah has brought you forth from the wombs of your mothers-- you did not know anything-- and He gave you hearing and sight and hearts that you may be cognizant (of The Creator).
Accordingly, if I may compare the human being to a computer I say that the human MIND is no more than the PROCESSOR. The HEART of a human being is HARD DISK. It is, therefore, the heart that matters.
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, Your perspective is partly correct; hard drives, RAM, and processors don't have any direct relation to organs like the heart. The issue here is that we typically don't have conscious access to RAM. In a way, you can think of our cognitive process as skipping over RAM and going from hard drive to processor.
Now, when it comes to the concept of Allah, it's important to understand that Allah is a product of human thought, somewhat like a program stored on a hard drive, comparable to an executable file.
Now, when it comes to the concept of Allah, it's important to understand that Allah is a product of human thought, somewhat like a program stored on a hard drive, comparable to an executable file.
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Doofesh
Ana Karenina, This is not a spell. It is just a short story (4 lines) about MOUNTAINS for you to exercise your mind. Please tell me what you think about it:
And [remember] when Ibraaheem said, "My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead." [He] said, "Have you not believed?" He said, "Yes, but [I ask] only that my heart may be satisfied." [He] said, "Take four BIRDS and commit them to yourself. Then put on each MOUNTAN a portion of them; then call them - they will come to you JOGGING. And know that The Lord is Exalted in Might and Wise."
And [remember] when Ibraaheem said, "My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead." [He] said, "Have you not believed?" He said, "Yes, but [I ask] only that my heart may be satisfied." [He] said, "Take four BIRDS and commit them to yourself. Then put on each MOUNTAN a portion of them; then call them - they will come to you JOGGING. And know that The Lord is Exalted in Might and Wise."
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, # Define the functions for creating and calling birds
def create_bird():
return {"alive": False}
def call_bird(bird):
bird["alive"] = True
# Create four birds
birds = [create_bird() for _ in range(4)]
# Place a portion of them on each mountain
mountain1 = birds[:2]
mountain2 = birds[2:]
# Call the birds, and they will come jogging
for bird in birds:
call_bird(bird)
# Check if the birds are alive
bird_status = ["JOGGING" if bird["alive"] else "NOT ALIVE" for bird in birds]
# Display the results
for i, status in enumerate(bird_status):
print(f"Mountain {i + 1} Bird: {status}")
# Output: Mountain 1 Bird: JOGGING
# Mountain 2 Bird: JOGGING
# Mountain 3 Bird: JOGGING
# Mountain 4 Bird: JOGGING
def create_bird():
return {"alive": False}
def call_bird(bird):
bird["alive"] = True
# Create four birds
birds = [create_bird() for _ in range(4)]
# Place a portion of them on each mountain
mountain1 = birds[:2]
mountain2 = birds[2:]
# Call the birds, and they will come jogging
for bird in birds:
call_bird(bird)
# Check if the birds are alive
bird_status = ["JOGGING" if bird["alive"] else "NOT ALIVE" for bird in birds]
# Display the results
for i, status in enumerate(bird_status):
print(f"Mountain {i + 1} Bird: {status}")
# Output: Mountain 1 Bird: JOGGING
# Mountain 2 Bird: JOGGING
# Mountain 3 Bird: JOGGING
# Mountain 4 Bird: JOGGING
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Doofesh
Doofesh, Excellent!
Your reply looks to my eyes like a computer output.
I did not mean it to be that complicated. I want to sense a human touch in it.
My immediate checking tells that you have missed the right answer.
I did give you a vital clue: MOUNTAINS.
Now you may please substitute the pronouns in the box below with their proper nouns:
And [remember] when Ibraaheem said, "My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead." [He] said, "Have you not believed?" He said, "Yes, but [I ask] only that my heart may be satisfied." [He] said, "Take four BIRDS and commit them to yourself. Then put on each MOUNTAN a portion of them;
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{then call them - they will come to you JOGGING.}
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And know that The Lord is Exalted in Might and Wise."
Your reply looks to my eyes like a computer output.
I did not mean it to be that complicated. I want to sense a human touch in it.
My immediate checking tells that you have missed the right answer.
I did give you a vital clue: MOUNTAINS.
Now you may please substitute the pronouns in the box below with their proper nouns:
And [remember] when Ibraaheem said, "My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead." [He] said, "Have you not believed?" He said, "Yes, but [I ask] only that my heart may be satisfied." [He] said, "Take four BIRDS and commit them to yourself. Then put on each MOUNTAN a portion of them;
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{then call them - they will come to you JOGGING.}
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And know that The Lord is Exalted in Might and Wise."
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, I understood your 'code' from the start; pronouns vs nouns- adjectives vs adverbs= sounds familiar, LOL! Be a gentlemen, introduce urself.
In the heights of mountains, beauty's throne,
A tranquil and exalted state is known.
With peaks that touch the endless sky,
Where nature's wonders catch the eye.
In lofty realms where eagles soar,
A world of awe, forevermore.
With snow-capped peaks and valleys deep,
A timeless beauty our hearts shall keep.
The thrill of nature, a grand display,
In mountain's embrace, we find our way.
In every summit's majestic grace,
We glimpse a world, a sacred place.
In the heights of mountains, beauty's throne,
A tranquil and exalted state is known.
With peaks that touch the endless sky,
Where nature's wonders catch the eye.
In lofty realms where eagles soar,
A world of awe, forevermore.
With snow-capped peaks and valleys deep,
A timeless beauty our hearts shall keep.
The thrill of nature, a grand display,
In mountain's embrace, we find our way.
In every summit's majestic grace,
We glimpse a world, a sacred place.
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Doofesh
Doofesh, You missed the point!
Substitution is as follows:
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{then call them (MOUNTAINS) - they (MOUNTAINS) will come to you JOGGING.}
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Substitution is as follows:
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{then call them (MOUNTAINS) - they (MOUNTAINS) will come to you JOGGING.}
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Ana Karenina
Doofesh, I am stupid! Could you, please, invest your energy in a more for you worthy project, object? Thank you!
Doofesh
Ana Karenina, You are NOT stupid, otherwise I would not have accepted your worthy advice.
Thank you!
Thank you!
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, You purposefully distorted it; why did u mix the birds here?
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Doofesh
Ana Karenina, What?! I purposefully distorted it!
How dare I distort a verse of The Quraan?!
If you think it is wise of me to invest some more of my energy in explaining the story to you, I will do it with great pleasure.
I know how much you are attached to MOUNTAINS. I guess you will miss a lot not exploring this short story.
How dare I distort a verse of The Quraan?!
If you think it is wise of me to invest some more of my energy in explaining the story to you, I will do it with great pleasure.
I know how much you are attached to MOUNTAINS. I guess you will miss a lot not exploring this short story.
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, The practice of awareness, the mountain as subject is I,
rings stability, power, and introspect.
Arian practice, with birds I reflect,
Thoughts as the object, half the job is perfect.
What's the other half, in this mindful dialect?
rings stability, power, and introspect.
Arian practice, with birds I reflect,
Thoughts as the object, half the job is perfect.
What's the other half, in this mindful dialect?
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Doofesh
Ana Karenina, Mountains are: THE DEAD
Birds are: THE SOULS.
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No human - not Homer, not Shakespeare, not Milton, not Rumi, not Hemingway, not even Tolstoy - can have words the like of those in The Quraan.
Remember the box?
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{then call them (MOUNTAINS) - they (MOUNTAINS) will come to you JOGGING.}
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Why are these words in the form of pronouns?
Because these are the TEST for those who read The Quraan.
Do readers just read, or do they reflect on what they read?
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Those who just read will substitute the pronouns with 'BIRDS'.
But do BIRDS on MOUNTAINS come JOGGING when you call them? BIRDS normally come flying.
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Those who read and reflect will substitute the pronouns with 'MOUNTAINS'.
But do MOUNTAINS come JOGGING when you call them?
MOUNTAINS (THE DEAD) come JOGGING if you place BIRDS (THEIR SOULS) on them. Your bring them to life.
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But where from a human being can get hold of souls?
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SOULS ARE THE POSSESSION OF THE CREATOR.
ALLAAH IS THE CREATOR OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH. HE IS CAPABLE OF DOING ALL THINGS.
Birds are: THE SOULS.
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No human - not Homer, not Shakespeare, not Milton, not Rumi, not Hemingway, not even Tolstoy - can have words the like of those in The Quraan.
Remember the box?
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{then call them (MOUNTAINS) - they (MOUNTAINS) will come to you JOGGING.}
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Why are these words in the form of pronouns?
Because these are the TEST for those who read The Quraan.
Do readers just read, or do they reflect on what they read?
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Those who just read will substitute the pronouns with 'BIRDS'.
But do BIRDS on MOUNTAINS come JOGGING when you call them? BIRDS normally come flying.
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Those who read and reflect will substitute the pronouns with 'MOUNTAINS'.
But do MOUNTAINS come JOGGING when you call them?
MOUNTAINS (THE DEAD) come JOGGING if you place BIRDS (THEIR SOULS) on them. Your bring them to life.
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But where from a human being can get hold of souls?
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SOULS ARE THE POSSESSION OF THE CREATOR.
ALLAAH IS THE CREATOR OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH. HE IS CAPABLE OF DOING ALL THINGS.
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, No, definitely! This is no my practice; wow, so distant as a matter of fact. But, yes, in the practice of Zen (koans)- Mahayana, I find similarities with your Quran. In the Arian practice mountains represent stability (sense organs, sense objects, sense consciousness= the triangle).
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, Still, it is twisted a bit, and I can see the greater picture- a lot of symbolism, but incomplete. Sorry :-)
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Doofesh
Ana Karenina, Remember that this is the TEST OF BELIEF that every human being is sitting for.
It is He (Allaah) who created you, though one of you is an infidel and one of you a believer; yet Allaah perceives what you do.
It is He (Allaah) who created you, though one of you is an infidel and one of you a believer; yet Allaah perceives what you do.
Doofesh
Ana Karenina, By way of reminder I tell you that it was you, not I, who opted to reply to my initial comment.
It is you who first, of the two of us, mentioned "Mountains".
Now it is you, not I, who mentioned the "Bridge".
You do not see what I see. I am convinced that you are being directed to take this path by The Creator. The reason behind it is your disbelief in Allaah. If you end as a believer, you will be a winner. But if you stick to disbelief, this dialogue will be evidence against you when you are summoned to accountability on the Day of Judgment. Remember that due notice has been served on you.
Remember that I explained to you just ONE verse, but that you took it for the whole Book. If you want to know how is The Creator taking control of you and me and the rest of the creation, I can explain to you another verse of just three words.
It is you who first, of the two of us, mentioned "Mountains".
Now it is you, not I, who mentioned the "Bridge".
You do not see what I see. I am convinced that you are being directed to take this path by The Creator. The reason behind it is your disbelief in Allaah. If you end as a believer, you will be a winner. But if you stick to disbelief, this dialogue will be evidence against you when you are summoned to accountability on the Day of Judgment. Remember that due notice has been served on you.
Remember that I explained to you just ONE verse, but that you took it for the whole Book. If you want to know how is The Creator taking control of you and me and the rest of the creation, I can explain to you another verse of just three words.
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, 🤣, don' t, please!
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Doofesh
Ana Karenina, Please Ana, believe so that I do not cry!
Who of the two of us should cry?
You mentioned the "Bridge". In The Quraan, it is not water that runs beneath the Bridge. It is The Fire.
On the reverse side it is rivers that run beneath those who will have been granted abode in The Jannah.
You think that I lost a battle to you, but I am just a messenger who conveys the divine message to people. I receive my wages from The Creator.
If you (Believers) could but see when they (Disbelievers) will be made to stand before their Lord (Allaah). He will say, "Is this not the truth?" They will say, "Yes, by our Lord." He will [then] say, "So taste the punishment because you used to disbelieve."
Who of the two of us should cry?
You mentioned the "Bridge". In The Quraan, it is not water that runs beneath the Bridge. It is The Fire.
On the reverse side it is rivers that run beneath those who will have been granted abode in The Jannah.
You think that I lost a battle to you, but I am just a messenger who conveys the divine message to people. I receive my wages from The Creator.
If you (Believers) could but see when they (Disbelievers) will be made to stand before their Lord (Allaah). He will say, "Is this not the truth?" They will say, "Yes, by our Lord." He will [then] say, "So taste the punishment because you used to disbelieve."
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, Well, when you put it that way, it's hard to argue with the boss! But I must say, I've always been a fan of Plan B: believing and avoiding the punishment altogether!
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, Very important that you mentioned fire: earth dissolves in water; water dissolves in fire; fire dissolves in air, air dissolves in consciousness; consciousness dissolves in space ( not empty space)...crucial.
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, Fire= desire; this world will be destroyed by fire.
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Doofesh
Ana Karenina, Nobody argues with The Creator, not even the Angels. It is The Creator who legislated for everything.
In the case of belief in Allaah, it is not believing and avoiding punishment, or believing and receiving reward. It is belief in The One and Only God there is. The Almighty who allowed Ibraheem to call the MOUNTAINS and have them come to hm JOGGING. Allaah is He who allowed Eessa to create the form of a BIRD, then blow life into it, then raise the DEAD.
As no human has absolutely no knowledge of the moment one dies, it is always in one's vital interest to move to plan B, the sooner the better. Mind you, Allaah knows what you intimate to yourself.
In the case of belief in Allaah, it is not believing and avoiding punishment, or believing and receiving reward. It is belief in The One and Only God there is. The Almighty who allowed Ibraheem to call the MOUNTAINS and have them come to hm JOGGING. Allaah is He who allowed Eessa to create the form of a BIRD, then blow life into it, then raise the DEAD.
As no human has absolutely no knowledge of the moment one dies, it is always in one's vital interest to move to plan B, the sooner the better. Mind you, Allaah knows what you intimate to yourself.
Doofesh
Ana Karenina, Things are totally different in the Afterlife. Allaah who created water, fire, soil, etc. has created everything in perfectness.
Frequently I heard similar arguments about The Fire: How would the Jinn, whom Allaah created from fire, be punished in The Fire? Do not you worry, The Creator prepared for everything.
Frequently I heard similar arguments about The Fire: How would the Jinn, whom Allaah created from fire, be punished in The Fire? Do not you worry, The Creator prepared for everything.
Doofesh
Ana Karenina, This world will end by substitution:
"The day when the earth will be replaced by some other than the earth, as will be the skies, and every one will appear before Allaah The One and Omnipotent.
"The day when the earth will be replaced by some other than the earth, as will be the skies, and every one will appear before Allaah The One and Omnipotent.
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, Ok, you are knocking on the wrong door; haven't you noticed by now? Please, leave in peace!
Doofesh
Ana Karenina, In peace I leave. Farewell!
Ana Karenina
Doofesh, Thank you. Farewell!
Doofesh
Doofesh, In Peace I left.
For Peace I am back.
In Peace I am bound to leave.
It is just a Peace obligation that I have to fulfill.
Once you said: My gift 2 u --- As-salamu alaykum!
For a reason which I know, and for a reason which I do not know, I then deferred my response.
Now I say: Wa-alaikumus-Salaam.
Allaah has 99 names of which “THE PEACE” {السلام} (Assalaam – in the Arabic language of The Quraan) is one.
In Peace I now leave: Peace be with you!
For Peace I am back.
In Peace I am bound to leave.
It is just a Peace obligation that I have to fulfill.
Once you said: My gift 2 u --- As-salamu alaykum!
For a reason which I know, and for a reason which I do not know, I then deferred my response.
Now I say: Wa-alaikumus-Salaam.
Allaah has 99 names of which “THE PEACE” {السلام} (Assalaam – in the Arabic language of The Quraan) is one.
In Peace I now leave: Peace be with you!
10/10/2023